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U2, Bono et leurs copains
Citation de Fabrice le 15 octobre 2023, 3 h 26 minPour les anglicistes, les impressions mitigées d'un fan du bon boss et du bon o.
Initial thoughts just on the performance, they sound great and Bram does a good job in the very hard position of replacing Larry but the show lacks artistic fire. The 2017 Joshua Tree shows had a real perspective because they took the album and made it all about America under Trump. The performance of AB was not on the same level, though amazing to hear Love Is Blindness in particular again 3 decades later.
MAJOR SPOILERS FROM HERE
As noted above, the show lacks artistic fire. A big part of the problem is the performance of the record. The first part, which opens the show and is the same sequence that was done to open ZooTV, is the high point. The Fly and Even Better Than The Real Thing are full of energy. After the first part of the record is finished (it’s not played in sequence), there is a 4 song acoustic segment. On the first night Bono said that they would be rotating this segment through various albums but that mainly hasn’t happened. Last night, the four songs were all off Rattle & Hum. Desire, in particular, had no bite to it as compared to previous versions. The energy during these songs was really low in the building. This is part a long section of the show where the screen is used minimally or not at all, the right move artistically but a problem in a building where much of the audience is so high up that the band looks like ants.
Also, the acoustic segment of the show cries out for songs from Zooropa, the companion record to Achtung Baby that is celebrating its 30th anniversary this month. Many of those songs have been rarely or never played in the US and fans were hopeful that they would be featured at The Sphere.
Following the acoustic segment, the band completes Achtung Baby with a number of the quieter songs off the record including So Cruel and Love Is Blindness. These are songs the crowd didn’t seem to know and again the screen was sparsely used.
The encores begin with Elevation (again?) and that’s followed by Atomic City, which in terms of both the performance and the use of the screen, is one of the big highlights of the night. From there, we get 4 standard greatest hits played in their normal arrangements. Following Vertigo with Where The Streets Have No Name is a real head scratcher. With Or Without You and Beautiful Day then close out the show. WOWY in every way was far superior on the 2017 JT tour in terms of the graphics package and performance (obviously as Larry Mullen is absent).
U2’s use of the screen is very well done as you’d expect but having seen every tour since The Unforgettable Fire dating back to 1985, it’s definitely not their best work in this regard. It’s a spectacle when it’s used well (The Fly, EBTTRT, Atomic City) but it doesn’t feel as motivated as previous shows. As with Bruce, the lack of new material is an issue. Atomic City is the only song from the past 23 years that’s played. In 2015, which was the best U2 tour IMO since the Elevation Tour, they used stunning graphics to add to the story that was being told about innocence and experience. Instead here, the show doesn’t feel anywhere near as cohesive. It’s a very solid show that U2 fans will enjoy but it doesn’t feel essential.
Now on the building, the biggest problem Dolan has is that the outside may be the most impressive part and you can’t charge people on a public street to look at your building. For concerts, the one thing that lives up to billing is the sound is insanely good. The rest of it everyone I was with was like “eh”. It’s certainly impressive but it’s so unfriendly to the concert experience. Much of the crowd is ridiculously high up, on tiers so steep that it’s hard to stand during the show. Rock and roll is ultimately about a band engaging with the audience. The building makes it very difficult and instead tries to use the gimmick of the screen to compensate. The crowd was totally dead except on the floor, which does live up to billing. Because the stage is so small and the crowd surrounds it, it really does feel like a club show. There’s also the bizarre fact that the entire back third of the 100 level is obstructed so that very little of the screen can be seen. This was somehow not discovered until after the tickets were sold. Those who have experienced say it is really bad. Hard to see how that happened.
So the question is who is this building for and what acts can play there? Very few acts have the ability to put together a show that has a chance of working there. It’s more of curiosity than anything. Give me a show at the Garden or Forum any day.
Apparently, the film that’s playing there, Postcards From Earth, is awesome but it’s an 18,000 seat building. It’s a lot of movie tickets to recoup a $2.3 billion construction cost, that’s for sure.
Pour les anglicistes, les impressions mitigées d'un fan du bon boss et du bon o.
Initial thoughts just on the performance, they sound great and Bram does a good job in the very hard position of replacing Larry but the show lacks artistic fire. The 2017 Joshua Tree shows had a real perspective because they took the album and made it all about America under Trump. The performance of AB was not on the same level, though amazing to hear Love Is Blindness in particular again 3 decades later.
MAJOR SPOILERS FROM HERE
As noted above, the show lacks artistic fire. A big part of the problem is the performance of the record. The first part, which opens the show and is the same sequence that was done to open ZooTV, is the high point. The Fly and Even Better Than The Real Thing are full of energy. After the first part of the record is finished (it’s not played in sequence), there is a 4 song acoustic segment. On the first night Bono said that they would be rotating this segment through various albums but that mainly hasn’t happened. Last night, the four songs were all off Rattle & Hum. Desire, in particular, had no bite to it as compared to previous versions. The energy during these songs was really low in the building. This is part a long section of the show where the screen is used minimally or not at all, the right move artistically but a problem in a building where much of the audience is so high up that the band looks like ants.
Also, the acoustic segment of the show cries out for songs from Zooropa, the companion record to Achtung Baby that is celebrating its 30th anniversary this month. Many of those songs have been rarely or never played in the US and fans were hopeful that they would be featured at The Sphere.
Following the acoustic segment, the band completes Achtung Baby with a number of the quieter songs off the record including So Cruel and Love Is Blindness. These are songs the crowd didn’t seem to know and again the screen was sparsely used.
The encores begin with Elevation (again?) and that’s followed by Atomic City, which in terms of both the performance and the use of the screen, is one of the big highlights of the night. From there, we get 4 standard greatest hits played in their normal arrangements. Following Vertigo with Where The Streets Have No Name is a real head scratcher. With Or Without You and Beautiful Day then close out the show. WOWY in every way was far superior on the 2017 JT tour in terms of the graphics package and performance (obviously as Larry Mullen is absent).
U2’s use of the screen is very well done as you’d expect but having seen every tour since The Unforgettable Fire dating back to 1985, it’s definitely not their best work in this regard. It’s a spectacle when it’s used well (The Fly, EBTTRT, Atomic City) but it doesn’t feel as motivated as previous shows. As with Bruce, the lack of new material is an issue. Atomic City is the only song from the past 23 years that’s played. In 2015, which was the best U2 tour IMO since the Elevation Tour, they used stunning graphics to add to the story that was being told about innocence and experience. Instead here, the show doesn’t feel anywhere near as cohesive. It’s a very solid show that U2 fans will enjoy but it doesn’t feel essential.
Now on the building, the biggest problem Dolan has is that the outside may be the most impressive part and you can’t charge people on a public street to look at your building. For concerts, the one thing that lives up to billing is the sound is insanely good. The rest of it everyone I was with was like “eh”. It’s certainly impressive but it’s so unfriendly to the concert experience. Much of the crowd is ridiculously high up, on tiers so steep that it’s hard to stand during the show. Rock and roll is ultimately about a band engaging with the audience. The building makes it very difficult and instead tries to use the gimmick of the screen to compensate. The crowd was totally dead except on the floor, which does live up to billing. Because the stage is so small and the crowd surrounds it, it really does feel like a club show. There’s also the bizarre fact that the entire back third of the 100 level is obstructed so that very little of the screen can be seen. This was somehow not discovered until after the tickets were sold. Those who have experienced say it is really bad. Hard to see how that happened.
So the question is who is this building for and what acts can play there? Very few acts have the ability to put together a show that has a chance of working there. It’s more of curiosity than anything. Give me a show at the Garden or Forum any day.
Apparently, the film that’s playing there, Postcards From Earth, is awesome but it’s an 18,000 seat building. It’s a lot of movie tickets to recoup a $2.3 billion construction cost, that’s for sure.
Citation de arizojp le 18 février 2026, 19 h 13 minU2 se réveille et sort un EP 6 titres directement liés à l'actualité internationale.
Le titre a été enregistré après la mort de Renée Good. Le second assassinat à Minneapolis par l'ICE n'est donc pas évoqué.
https://youtu.be/Y3ziTSYyook
U2 se réveille et sort un EP 6 titres directement liés à l'actualité internationale.
Le titre a été enregistré après la mort de Renée Good. Le second assassinat à Minneapolis par l'ICE n'est donc pas évoqué.
Citation de Fabrice le 19 février 2026, 18 h 50 minCitation de phil le 19 février 2026, 13 h 20 min2 écoutes de l'EP et plutôt bof bof....
Je n'ai écouté que le single... et n'a pas été convaincu. Le titre a le défaut (à mes oreilles) de beaucoup de leurs productions depuis 15/20 ans. Du gros son, des gimmicks, de l'énergie mais rien de très marquant.
Peut-être devrais-je écouter les autres titres mais hier, l'envie n'y était pas.
Citation de phil le 19 février 2026, 13 h 20 min2 écoutes de l'EP et plutôt bof bof....
Je n'ai écouté que le single... et n'a pas été convaincu. Le titre a le défaut (à mes oreilles) de beaucoup de leurs productions depuis 15/20 ans. Du gros son, des gimmicks, de l'énergie mais rien de très marquant.
Peut-être devrais-je écouter les autres titres mais hier, l'envie n'y était pas.
Citation de Kyle William le 19 février 2026, 19 h 12 minTout écouté deux fois, et à mon avis, c’est à l’image de ce qu’est devenu U2. C’est toujours excellent, aussi bien musicalement qu’au niveau du son et jusqu’aux visuels qui accompagnent le tout. Simplement, ils se sont figés dans une formule qui est désormais la même depuis 25 ans, alors que ce qui faisait la force du groupe était ses évolutions permanentes des années 80 et 90.
Il est difficile de leur en vouloir, c’est le lot de la plupart des grands artistes du rock. Par exemple, on ne peut pas dire non plus que Streets Of Minneapolis apporte quoi que ce soit de neuf à l’oeuvre de Springsteen… C’est d’autant plus vrai qu’aujourdhui, il n’y a plus d’émulation artistique au plus haut niveau puisque le rock est redevenu une musique marginale, voire carrément underground. Même les nouveaux jeunes groupes ne prennent aucun risque et ne sortent pas d’une musique calibrée qui s’auto-cite en permanence. Il faut dire aussi que le public rock est plutôt âgé et souvent férocement conservateur.
J’ai été frappé en allant voir deux excellent concerts des Black Rebel Motorcycle Club au 106, puis à l’Olympia début décembre. Alors qu’ils avaient annoncé à l'avance vouloir rendre hommage à leur album folk « Howl » de 2005, ils se sont pris les mêmes sifflets qu’à l’époque en jouant ces morceaux, comme s’il n’était vraiment pas permis de jouer du rock et d’essayer parfois de sortir des rails de ce que le public attend.
C’est ainsi, mais concernant U2, je suis toujours content de les voir revenir, toujours frappé par leur cohésion musicale intacte, et ce même s’ils ne me surprennent plus. Je suis frappé aussi de constater à quel point Bono colle à la roue de Bruce depuis 10-15 ans. Bruce part en tournée hommage à The River en 2016 ? U2 fait une tournée hommage à Joshua Tree. Bruce publie son autobiographie et la défend avec un spectacle à Broadway ? Bono publie son autobiographie et fait un spectacle solo dans des théâtres. Bruce écrit et enregistre vite-fait une chanson sur les événements de Minneapolis ? U2 dégaine sa chanson sur Minneapolis 15 jours après. Soit Bono ne fait rien qu’à copier, soit il est définitivement devenu le nouveau Springsteen.
Tout écouté deux fois, et à mon avis, c’est à l’image de ce qu’est devenu U2. C’est toujours excellent, aussi bien musicalement qu’au niveau du son et jusqu’aux visuels qui accompagnent le tout. Simplement, ils se sont figés dans une formule qui est désormais la même depuis 25 ans, alors que ce qui faisait la force du groupe était ses évolutions permanentes des années 80 et 90.
Il est difficile de leur en vouloir, c’est le lot de la plupart des grands artistes du rock. Par exemple, on ne peut pas dire non plus que Streets Of Minneapolis apporte quoi que ce soit de neuf à l’oeuvre de Springsteen… C’est d’autant plus vrai qu’aujourdhui, il n’y a plus d’émulation artistique au plus haut niveau puisque le rock est redevenu une musique marginale, voire carrément underground. Même les nouveaux jeunes groupes ne prennent aucun risque et ne sortent pas d’une musique calibrée qui s’auto-cite en permanence. Il faut dire aussi que le public rock est plutôt âgé et souvent férocement conservateur.
J’ai été frappé en allant voir deux excellent concerts des Black Rebel Motorcycle Club au 106, puis à l’Olympia début décembre. Alors qu’ils avaient annoncé à l'avance vouloir rendre hommage à leur album folk « Howl » de 2005, ils se sont pris les mêmes sifflets qu’à l’époque en jouant ces morceaux, comme s’il n’était vraiment pas permis de jouer du rock et d’essayer parfois de sortir des rails de ce que le public attend.
C’est ainsi, mais concernant U2, je suis toujours content de les voir revenir, toujours frappé par leur cohésion musicale intacte, et ce même s’ils ne me surprennent plus. Je suis frappé aussi de constater à quel point Bono colle à la roue de Bruce depuis 10-15 ans. Bruce part en tournée hommage à The River en 2016 ? U2 fait une tournée hommage à Joshua Tree. Bruce publie son autobiographie et la défend avec un spectacle à Broadway ? Bono publie son autobiographie et fait un spectacle solo dans des théâtres. Bruce écrit et enregistre vite-fait une chanson sur les événements de Minneapolis ? U2 dégaine sa chanson sur Minneapolis 15 jours après. Soit Bono ne fait rien qu’à copier, soit il est définitivement devenu le nouveau Springsteen.
